Appearing Monday on MSNBC’sThe 11 th Hour,NBC News nationwide security contributor Frank Figliuzzi informed host Brian Williams that President Donald Trump was at least unintentionally sending a secret message to the “white supremacist motion” by buying U.S. flags flown at half-mast due to the lethal shootings in Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, Texas, to be re-raised on August 8th.

A partial transcript is as follows:

BRIAN WILLIAMS:

Frank, what were the indications and how do we know how to browse [white supremacist terrorism] tomorrow and the next day? This begins ending up being the meaning of terrorism when individuals develop stress and anxiety about what needs to be free-flowing public locations.

FRANK FIGLIUZZI:

Exactly right. The definition of terrorism is conduct developed to co-intimidate the civilian population, and if we don’t do something about it quickly, then that will continue to play out. I have a piece out just tonight in theNew York Timeson what, sadly, I think is going to occur next if we do not disrupt the chain of radicalization.

What were the indication for me, Brian, paradoxically, they weren’t from my experience in domestic terrorism, but rather they were from my experience in worldwide terrorism and radicalization to Islamic jihad. You see the exact same things taking place now in white hate groups and white supremacy groups where not just is the Internet helping with the speed of radicalization however our leader, our president is seen as nearly a coach and a radicalizer and regrettably, today, we did not hear what we needed to hear from that individual that these extremists and unsteady people seek to.

He spoke in the passive voice, in the collective voice. We didn’t hear first-person from him. We didn’t hear “I condemn” white hate ideology. We heard “the country” must condemn it. Well, the nation does condemn it, but we did n`t hear what we needed to hear, so what happens is the extremists translated what the president checked out off a script today as something he required to state, something he didn’t really desire to state. So, the president is either getting truly excellent advice and declining it or is getting truly bad suggestions. And I’ll offer you an example of that. We need to understand the adversary and the hazard we’re handling. And if we don’t comprehend how they believe, we’ll never understand how to experience them. So it’s little things and language and messaging that matters. The president stated that we will fly our flags at half-mast till August 8th. That’ s 8/8. Now, I’m not going to indicate that he did this intentionally however I am utilizing it as an example of the ignorance of the enemy that’ s being demonstrated by the White House.

The numbers 88 are very considerable in neo-Nazi and white supremacist movement. Why? Since the letter H is the 8th letter of the alphabet and to them, the numbers 88 together represent “Heil Hitler.” So we’re going to be raising the flag back up at dusk on 8/8. Nobody is considering this. Nobody is providing him suggestions or he’s rejecting the recommendations. So, comprehend your adversary to counter the enemy.

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